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Interview with Deputy Justice Minister Yury Ivanovich Kalinin


KalininEver since we began transferring the criminal punishment execution system from the Interior Ministry to the Justice Ministry, our top priority has been to reduce the number of prisoners in correctional colonies and preliminary investigation confinement cells-SIZOs. This problem must be solved before we can overcome the critical situation in which the criminal executive system currently finds itself.
I would like to begin by talking about why we have so many prisoners and why SIZOs are so catastrophically overcrowded. The main reason is the criminal policy conducted in our country, and the way in which judicial and investigation agencies perform their job. At present, investigation is bent on putting a suspect, or person accused of a crime, in a confinement cell no matter what. The investigator is not interested in how old this person is, what his family situation is like, whether or not he has a job, or whether or not this is his first arrest. His attitude is, once caught, put him behind bars. Just to be on the safe side. At present, more than 60% of the investigators in the Russian Interior Ministry investigation department do not have any kind of law degree. Most of these investigators are only interested in putting a person behind bars. They believe they are fighting for a good cause, that they are even avengers of a sort, so they have neither the time, desire, nor training to understand the person they are dealing with. Put him in prison and everything is alright.
Of course, the system they work under is largely responsible for this attitude, since the quality of their work is measured by the number of crimes they expose. In Moscow, for example, the current level of crime exposure is 92%. This is why so many people are spending time in SIZOs for petty crimes. They are sent there so the investigator can get another check mark and raise his crime-exposure percentage. At the end of the month, the check marks are added up, and they say, Vanya's done a good job, he has solved 90% of his crimes, Kolya has not done so well, he did not quite make 60%. On the whole, I do not believe in these percentages. There are all kinds of gangs on the prowl in Moscow, from Lyuberets, Solntsevo, etc. Why don't the police, task-force employees, and investigators deal primarily with them?
The confinement cells in Moscow are chock-a-block. I was shocked to hear how one guy was in a SIZO for stealing two crates of empty bottles from a market stall! The stall keepers caught him, beat him up and handed him over to the police. Without further ado, the police sent him to a SIZO, they solved their crime, gave themselves a check mark, while the Lyuberets thugs continue to run amok.
The justice minister and I paid a visit to the juvenile cell at the Chelyabinsk SIZO. I spoke to a sixteen-year-old lad.
"What are you in for?"
"I stole two bottles of vodka and a box of chocolates from a stall."
"What was the damage?"
"Eighty rubles."
"Do you have a father and mother?"
"Yes."
"Have you ever been arrested by the police before?"
"No."
"Do you have a record?"
"No."
What is the point of keeping the boy in a SIZO because of 80 rubles? I questioned another lad, this time a little tougher looking.
"What are you in for?"
"I beat up my friend."
"Why did you beat him?"
"We had an argument, we started to fight, I'm bigger than him, so he got the worst of it."
"Have you been arrested by the police before?"
"No."
"Do you go to school?"
"Yes."
"What grade?"
"Tenth."
"How long have you been here?"
"Eight months."
Who has not been in a fight as a kid? I can also remember getting my face bashed, or being the one to wave my fists. If this is a punishable crime, half of the men in Russia should be in prison.
Another problem is that the number of people registered with the courts is increasing every year. As of today, this number constitutes more than 60% of the total number of SIZO prisoners. Something must be done about the courts. The courts are not under anyone's jurisdiction. They have become something akin to the Indian sacred cow. They could not care less about our appeals, or about the appeals of the prosecutors. I have discussed this problem several times with Supreme Court Chairman Lebedev. He says, "I have no influence over the courts, they are independent . . ." Qualified colleagues have been known to deprive someone of their court powers, or dismiss someone from their job for spending too much time on red tape, but these are isolated cases. Yes, it is true that the courts are under-financed. But not that much money is needed to write a sentence or make a decision on time. It all depends on the judge's attitude to his job.
These topics should be discussed and exposed more in the mass media. Society's eyes should be opened to the real reasons for the catastrophic situation in SIZOs and in the criminal executive system as a whole, and shown how to eliminate them. But all we know is what we are told, our prisons are in a bad way. They are indeed, and they will continue to be bad and may get even worse. The government program for building new SIZOs is not being implemented, nor is any money being allocated from the federal budget. In the past, a little was allotted, but it was used to build barracks and warehouses. Who knows what was actually built. Some money is allotted to the prison camp employment program. People are given the chance to earn a little, although there are currently about 120,000 unemployed in correctional institutions.
The situation in SIZOs is particularly serious. And here there is little we can do. We have more rights and opportunities to influence the situation in the colonies; there we can take advantage of provisional and early release, and convoy prisoners. We do not have the right to do anything in SIZOs, there we only responsible for security and surveillance. The confinement cell is under the jurisdiction of criminal procedural law. The investigator sent a person there, and without the investigator we do not have the right to go anywhere near him. If he has been to court, he is registered with the court, and without the court's permission we cannot do anything, we cannot release him, or permit him visiting hours, or allow him to receive additional parcels or packages; everything is decided by the investigator or the judge.
At present, two norms are in effect (we pushed them through in 1995 in the "Law on Keeping the Accused and Suspects in Custody") which give SIZO superintendents the right to release prisoners whose term has not been extended without the investigator's consent. We take advantage of these norms. More than 300 prisoners have been released from the Nizhegorod SIZO. Only one went into hiding. The others went through preliminary investigation and court as scheduled, did not run away, lived at home, and showed up on time for questioning. Was there any point in keeping these three hundred people in a confinement cell? No. Did their confinement have any effect on the investigation? (Confinement is deprivation of freedom, arrest, but instead a person should be put on bale until called to court). No. Did it have any effect on the court? Again the answer is no. The decrees usually state, "Could go into hiding or hinder investigation." However, these three hundred people lived at home, did not go into hiding and did not hinder the investigation, although they were in contact with their partners and, possibly, also with the victims. None of this had any effect on the quality of the investigation or court procedure. Why did they have to be imprisoned?
Now let's take a look at tuberculosis. There are currently 75,000 people suffering from open forms of tuberculosis in our country. Every year this number is increasing. If the number of prisoners is not reduced, the cells where our prisoners are kept will continue to be gas chambers. There is no way of separating or sorting prisoners with tuberculosis from healthy ones. We have created a kind of incubator for breeding Koch's bacilli. And no amount of prevention measures, no amount of new medication will help in the face of such overcrowding.
I do not really want to go into the traditional aspects of the situation in SIZOs and colonies and the problem of malnutrition and tuberculosis. So much has been said about them already, things have not budged an inch, and they will not budge if another 70-80,000 people are locked away every year and if the same investigation and judicial practice I have been talking about continues. What can we do if 45,000 people are currently held in investigation confinement cells longer than the terms set by the law? And if another 24,000 are not convoyed by interior troops because they couldn't care less about transferring prisoners, they have their own problems? And if another 60% are waiting indefinitely for their court case to be resolved?
Let's look at the measures are we currently taking to reduce the number of prisoners and convicts. We have drawn up and sent proposals to the State Duma regarding changes in several articles of the Russian Criminal Procedural Code. Here are some of them. We believe that if criminal law envisages a prison sentence of no more than 8 years, any interception measures, such as arrest, should be eliminated altogether. In this event, a lot fewer accused persons would end up in SIZOs. Incidentally, the current Russian Criminal Code considers such crimes petty and of no threat to society.
At the fall session of the Duma, the question is being put forward of reducing the term for reviewing criminal cases in the courts. This is our ongoing chronic illness. People are registered with the court for three, four, five, six years, and no one knows when their case will be reviewed.
Incidentally, the prosecutor's office supports us in these proposals. However, the developers of the new draft of the Criminal Procedural Code take the following stance, why should we patch up the old code if we are going to adopt a new code in a year or two. When I met with them, I told them directly that they can have no idea what is going on in the SIZOs while they sit at their office desks. One month, two, a year means nothing to them. But for the person in a SIZO cell, one day is an awfully long time. That day may stop his health from being destroyed, or save his life.
We also drew up a resolution draft on amnesty. There are plans to release approximately 115,000 prisoners from confinement cells and colonies. From previous amnesties, we know that recidivism among amnestied prisoners amounts to 2-2.5%. This indicates that the category we are releasing has already received its measure of punishment and does not pose any threat to society. Keeping people in prison for longer than necessary is detrimental both to the prisoner and to society.
Here we need assistance from human rights activists, public organizations and the press, since our plans have been given the cold shoulder by the Duma. We have spoken to the Duma factions and they do not seem to have anything in particular against resolving this problem positively. But fall is here, and all they are concerned about is their own political problems. Some deputies are beginning to play on the feelings of the voters, understanding that they only have a little over a year before the elections. They recall how they came to the Duma on the wave of the fight against crime. If they adopt our resolution draft on amnesty now, the voters will worry that criminals will be set free and the crime level will increase.
People who understand the problem realize that there will be no increase in crime in the event of this amnesty. I have already mentioned that recidivism among amnestied prisoners is minimal.
We need to expand the use of alternative types of punishment. I am proposing that our lawyers review the articles of the criminal code, perhaps alternative punishment that does not involve deprivation of freedom may be enough in some cases. If recidivism among amnestied prisoners is only 2%, does it make sense to put such people behind bars? Opponents respond that people are sent to do correctional work, but then go out and commit crimes again. Punishment deferment is granted, but many of them still have to be imprisoned.
Of course, there are always going to be those sentenced to alternative punishment not involving imprisonment who will commit a crime again, there is no getting away from this. But it is ludicrous to send so many people to prison! Our prison system is such that it is incapable of re-educating anyone or providing anything positive. Frankly, I am very skeptical about prison being able to re-educate anyone. At present, the only thing I want is for us to find a way to send as few people behind bars as possible. Prison should only be for extremely dangerous criminals who pose a real threat to society.
At present, more than 500,000 prisoners pass annually through SIZOs. More than 700,000 are serving their terms in colonies. These are mainly middle-aged people between the ages of 30 and 32. What does the state have to gain from pumping this number of people through its prisons and camps? How many able-bodied men do we have? Thirty-six million. But what kind of prospects do we have? We say that we need to build a legal state, a market economy, create a new kind of person. But under our criminal policy, all these people will soon be filtered through confinement cells and colonies. What kind of market or legal state are we going to build with this type of "barracks-minded" person who has been through prison?
Here is another important aspect. At one time we sent those accused of unpremeditated crimes to special colony settlements. There were several of these experimental colonies in the Soviet Union. I was in charge of one of them. We had 2,500 people of a normal category, and there were almost no complications or problems. At the same time, these prisoners constituted cheap labor, 2-3,000 were concentrated in one place, and they worked. Then someone took it into his head that the punitive function of this punishment was low. And they decided that if a prisoner was sentenced to up to five years of imprisonment he would stay in the colony settlement, but if the term was more than five years, he would be sent to an ordinary colony. However, there are now more than 20,000 of those with terms of more than five years. What is the point of herding them into prisons if the colony settlement provides harsh enough punishment for them? After all, we are talking about people accused for the first time of unpremeditated, mainly transportation, crimes. So what is the purpose? At present, we are putting forward the proposal that people convicted of unpremeditated crimes should not be sent to prison, but should serve their term only in colony settlements. And on the whole, colonies should be developed where some of the people are not kept under guard, but can live under normal conditions similar to those beyond prison.
We need to review the question of encouraging obedient behavior from convicts and expand the possibilities for their provisional and early release. No one has yet measured a prisoner's term with respect to his orientations and personal qualities. No analyst has yet researched the problem of how long a person should spend in prison. He was given ten years, so what. Where is the peak beyond which a person should and must be released? One year, two years, five years? This primarily depends on his individual characteristics. But in our country everything is terribly formalized, the time when a person is granted provisional and early release primarily depends on the articles of the Criminal Code under which he was convicted. The article is the main thing, and the person behind it is of little importance. The length of a prison term is a serious question. But who is studying this question? Criminologists in our country have nothing to say, sociologists have nothing to say, teachers have nothing to say. But they should be made to study this problem, to draw on their creative powers in order to change the appearance of our prisons. If we stick to our traditional principles, we will end up with nothing to feed our prisoners, with nothing to clothe them, and a tuberculosis epidemic beyond all proportions.
We would like to specify the "Conception for Reorganizing the Criminal Executive System" signed by the President. I believe that the prison block should remain part of our criminal executive system, but it should only be for dangerous criminals, i.e. a relatively small number of prisoners. Furthermore, there should be semi-open institutions with vacation time, and with the opportunity to leave the prison and work during the day, for example, while returning at night. Since 1992, restrictions have been cancelled on correspondence, punishment in the form of depriving prisoners of packages and visiting hours has been eliminated, and the right to make telephone calls and take vacations has been introduced. When we came forward with this legislative initiative, we were asked if we were in our right minds. They will all run away, they said, no one will come back from vacation. Nothing of the sort. A few isolated cases do not return. But as a result, the psychological climate in the colonies has changed amazingly. For six years now, people have been leaving on vacation, their inner orientation is changing, and the attitude of most prisoners to our system is changing. This means that we should continue in the same direction, providing alternatives where people are less restricted by bars. We need to think about creating institutions in which some of the prisoners are not kept under guard, live closer to freedom and closer to normal conditions.
So we are aiming for a greatly reduced system in which, although confinement cells remain, they are much more open than at present.
We need to create a structure for those who have received punishments not involving imprisonment, something similar to the probation service in the West. In our country, we sentence a person to an alternative form of punishment, and that's it, no one is interested in him anymore. If an interest is taken there will be fewer crimes committed by those sentenced to a provisional term, to correctional work, etc.
A rehabilitation service for released prisoners is also needed. As things stand now, a person is released without any control or surveillance over him. Why do we not have a service to take care of these people? If this kind of service were organized, I think it would cost the government less that our entire system. What is more, it would provide great advantages in the social sense.
Let's take a closer look at rehabilitation. Suppose a person has served a 5-6-8-10-year prison term, when he is released he has lost all his social skills for adapting to the world around him, and in addition he also has to deal with the dynamics of the current changes in society, which is something the free person has trouble coping with. I do not think it necessary to shut a person off from the world. After all, tomorrow the problem of his rehabilitation will be even more serious than ever. Rehabilitation should begin from the very first day he is under interrogation, from the very first day he spends in a SIZO.
We are also drawing up legislative proposals for the new Russian Criminal Code. New types of punishment have appeared in this code, in particular, restriction on freedom and arrest, which should go into effect before 2001. We propose removing these types of punishment from the codes entirely. Restriction of freedom is essentially the same provisional sentence with mandatory labor that used to be practiced during the Soviet era. It was also known as "khimiya2", or "national economy building projects." Now, despite our resistance, the developers of the new Criminal Code have given us "Correctional Centers." These are the same "national economy building projects," or special headquarters, but with a different name. What does it mean today when a person convicted for the first time of a petty crime is sent to an inter-regional correctional center, sent from the region he lives to another? He is supposed to work there, earn a living, and feed himself. But who is waiting for him in this other region, where is he supposed to find work? What is the point of this punishment? Can it correct the convict, have an influence on him? Can he be deterred by this punishment? It will result in only one thing, a person is brought to this Center, looks around, sees there is nothing for him to do, no way to help his family, and will go stealing for the sake of a crust of bread, or run home to his family to earn a living there. In the first case, he will be caught and imprisoned for stealing, and in the second for escape. The only solution is to put him in a closed zone, in prison. When I talked with the specialists who are developing the Criminal Code, one impressive and clever expert said to me, you are a practical worker, so you do not understand that the punishment system should be streamlined, it is a ladder in which each step should be in the right place. But why talk to me about a ladder? Tell me about the fate of the person you are placing in inhuman conditions. Think about what effect this type of punishment will have on society as a whole. Think about how this person's family will fall apart, how work will be lost, and about how he may even be forced to commit another crime. For me, all these clever speeches about the streamlined ladder of punishment are simply idiotic.
Nor do I see any sense in arrests. According to preliminary calculations, approximately 50-60,000 people a year will be subject to this interception measure. Let's look at what we get. Let's say a person is subject to 6 months of arrest according to the law for the crime he has committed, but could be given one, two, or three months. Do you know how much time preliminary investigation and court proceedings take in our country? It will take longer than six months to get though the investigation and court procedures. Then he is given a verdict, essentially a SIZO term. But by this time, he has already been under arrest for a year. So why put him in a cell, why separate him from his family, from his normal environment, from his work? What is the purpose? To deter him? It is impossible to deter anyone this way. It is only possible to destroy him, mentally and physically. A cell in a SIZO or in an arrest home is a kind of "separator" which divides those arrested into castes, some become the dregs, others fall into the category of ordinary convicts, i.e. remain inert, and still others become criminal authorities, i.e. become enmeshed in the criminal environment. Prison itself can push a person of a certain character type, strong will, and specific physical features into this category.
This is why we are in favor of eliminating these types of punishment.
I was recently asked about the draft law on control of SIZOs and colonies by public organizations. I replied that if it is only control, I am against it. We have so many controllers in our country at present there is no room to turn. And then, what is there to control? We are transparent enough even now that all our problems are plain for all to see. Experts from the Council of Europe will begin inspecting our prisons this year. I feel positively about this. Prison should be made even more transparent.
However, let's look at things realistically, what will change from this public control? Of course, there will be more noise from the controllers, there will be more shouts of, "Things are so bad . . . the budget only allots 70 kopecks per prisoner per day . . ." So, we will make some noise, we'll do some shouting, but this is not going to increase the prisoner's rations. Times are such that shouting is not what we need, rather we should be looking for specific solutions, working, rushing around as though there were a fire, if you have a gaff, bring it out, if you have a bucket, run for water. But we are not going to put out the fire by shouting and making a great fuss.
We have begun working on a conception of reform for the criminal executive system; of course, we will need to involve human rights activists, society, and the deputies you work with. This is constructive, it is time to stop shouting about the problems and begin solving them instead.

Caption to the photograph:
Yury Ivanovich Kalinin was appointed deputy justice minister responsible for the criminal executive system at the end of July 1988. He is 52 years old. He graduated from the Saratov Law Institute. He has worked for 27 years in the criminal executive system, climbing the ladder from rank-and-file employee to deputy head of the main prison department in the USSR Interior Ministry. During the 1980s he was in charge of an experimental colony settlement for people who had committed unpremeditated crimes. (It was a rather progressive undertaking at that time, I suggest eliminating it.) From 1992 to 1997, he was head of the Main Department of Punishment Execution of the Russian Federation Interior Ministry. He enjoyed immense prestige among the employees of penitentiary institutions and services. Yury Ivanovich is known to specialists in the field of punishment execution in our country and abroad as a person who has successfully implemented many reform ideas. His name is associated with humanization of the conditions in our prisons and colonies.



The interview took place on August 21, 1998. This is a shortened version.

The Soviet practice of sending prisoners to serve their term at factories and building sites around the country.

 

 


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